Talk:Rebel/@comment-86.170.181.44-20141002233409

you arent any ore likely to get health or ammo pickups but rebel can steadily turn 2 and 1 hp into the ammopacks that the minions drop, one health pack is two hp the cost for the first minion that minion will alway give you a ammopackplus the hp it tanked and the littlefirepower it provided, also you multiple the amount of minion you get if you chose second stomach at are consistantly spawning minions this means that with the optimal mutations (second stomach+2, rabit paw*1.6, rush crown if exessive+1 total 4 more hp than normal and ammo boxes are worth more)shotgun=8 per box*4=32 more ammo from EACH health box compared to 2 more from fishs passive

however this requires you to spawn minions regularly without anything mutations wise, but rush crown as that isnt rng, your getting 16 as your not getting the *1.6 from rabbit paw or +2 but thats 16 more ammo from each

rebel is actually broken, +32 more ammo for a hp box max, plus the benefits from having more minions

FOR THE LESS MATHEMATICALY OR LOGICALLY FLUENT

a minion will always give an ammo pack when they die increasing the amount of hp you get will let you spawn more minions meaning more ammo, however you wont be able to convert all of this hp to ammo via minions as you take damage

getting 32 ammo means getting getting *4 the health than a new character ignoring extra hp spawning from low health threshhold.*4 is 7 hp as 4 hp plus *1.6 chance from lucky foot. 7hp times 8 shells 56 shells,from medpacks -8 from the +1 hp cost of the first minion

however lets just not forget that fish can roll